**Films not on follow list with updates**
* **Thor: Ragnarok** - Many were wondering just how big of a chunk Justice League would take out of Thor: Ragnarok this weekend so you might be surprised that despite the underperformance of JL, Thor still dropped 61.8% this weekend to come in at #3 with $21.7M. That puts it in the same range as Thor: The Dark World which dropped 61.2% on its third weekend against a major opener The Hunger Games: Catching Fire. It's clear that despite social media saying the opposite most people who decided to skip Justice League just stayed home or saw something else, they did not all go see Thor: Ragnarok instead.
**Notable films closings**
* **The Snowman** - We seem to have a trio of one-time hyped but ultimately terribly reviewed and performing films closing this week. First up is The Snowman which closed to a weak $6.6M domestic and $37.2M worldwide on a budget of $35M. The murder mystery film which was originally to be directed by Martin Scorsese was rushed into production when he left the film, causing the director Tomas Alfredson only enough time to shoot 80% of the script. Critics agreed with the director that the film made no sense as it received some of the worst reviews of the year though it did make enough overseas in European countries to not be a total disaster, just mostly one.
* **Suburbicon** - It seems an A-list star and director don't salvage a terribly reviewed film either as the George Clooney directed/Matt Damon starring 1950s crime thriller closed to a pitiful $5.7M domestic and $6.4M worldwide on a budget of $25M. The film seemed poised to be a solid hit but quickly word got out about the film's messy take on race mixed with it's 1980s written Coen Brother script and the film ended up having the worst wide release opening in Paramount's history. It didn't help any the film got the second worst grade possible from Cinemascore, a D- and it quickly exited theaters with a whimper.
* **Tulip Fever** - In what might be the last The Weinstein Company major release the much delayed period piece erotic drama closed to a terrible $2.4M domestic and $7.8M worldwide on a budget of $25M. The film, which has been in some stage of development since 2004, was shot in 2014 and screened at Cannes in 2015 but received such terrible reviews and during the worst of TWC's money troubles that it was reshuffled 4 times over two years before finally being released with no promotion and grossing barely anything. Right after release the major story of Harvey Weinstein's decades of sexual harassment came out forcing TWC to fire Weinstein and with lawsuits forming daily could easily mean this will be the last major Weinstein release ever. What a terrible yet perfect film to end the long slowly dying outdated and awful distributor. Frankly, I won't miss you.
It's time to talk seriously about *brand devaluation*
The consequences of the bad reviews for BvS and MoS weren't their box office totals, it's the effect they had on movies like JL
Justice League opened lower than Iron man 1 which came out almost 10 years ago, Unbelievable.
If you told me 5 years ago an R-rated film about Deadpool would make more money than a film with Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman/Flash, I would say you must be losing your mind.
After 4 movies of straight > $100m weekends, it’s Justice League that breaks the streak. Man I’d hate to be a WB exec right now
> If that doesn't sound like the beginning of a downfall, then what the hell else does?
WB had huge hits with Wonder Woman and IT, while Justice League was a colossal failure. This could be a teaching moment. I hope they learn that strong characters and storytelling will never go out of style, while rushed sequels will (probably) result in diminishing returns.
They probably won't.
Justice League opening smaller than Iron Man 1 is just embarrassing. If they had just shown some patience, built up the heroes a little bit, then gone into the League movie, audiences would’ve come. There’s an entire generation of people that grew up watching Justice League and Justice League Unlimited cartoons. They all would’ve shown up if they had been given a reason to go. This is a real shame for the cast cause they were good. They were really really good. Especially Henry Cavill and Ezra Miller who embodied the characters and brought them to life. I don’t know enough about studios and finances, but are these numbers bad enough that there is a possibility that the entire universe gets rebooted, or worse, just straight up shelved?
The amount of damage Batman v Superman has done to the franchise is legitimately impressive.
I think what DC needs to do from now on is only focus on making quality solo films instead of rushing to make a cinematic universe. Do what they did with Patty Jenkins and actually *trust* the directors to make a competent film rather than interfering and making a studio-mandated mess. Then, *if* solo films like Aquaman and Shazam and Cyborg become a success (and that’s a big ‘if), come back in 5 Years and attempt a Justice League 2.
Oh, and for the love of all things holy please just can Snyder already. Why he was given the keys to the entire franchise after the mixed reception of Man of Steel I’ll never know.
Surprisingly “not quite as bad as Batman v Superman” isn’t good enough word of mouth to save the movie.
> second most expensive film in history that reportedly needs to make $700M just to break even
I heard the graphics were pretty terrible. How is this movie so expensive? Shouldn't we be able to expect graphics at least on-par with LOTR (that came out like 15 years ago) for a much better budget?
This just goes to show that Wonder Woman is a strong independent superhero who don’t need no man.