Score
Title
200
Fifth Annual Oscar Bingo Submission thread!
3432
'Godzilla vs. Kong' To Start Filming In October
1118
Chris Tucker Confirms 'Rush Hour 4' is happening
18379
Netflix Lands Worldwide Rights to Next Four Duplass Brothers Films
581
New Poster for Drama-Thriller 'You Were Never Really Here' - Starring Joaquin Phoenix & Ekaterina Samsonov - Directed by Lynne Ramsey
1445
Paul Thomas Anderson Is Working On A Family-Friendly Script With His Eight-Year-Old Daughter
940
The Shadow of the Colossus script being circulated around film circles is really *really* bad
260
The Solo trailer recut to Sabotage is a much better trailer than the original
1064
Reviews for "Annihilation" (2018) are in!
276
I would LOVE to see a third Sherlock Holmes
891
THR Full Writers Roundtable: Jordan Peele, Darren Aronofsky, Emily V. Gordon, Aaron Sorkin, etc.
403
'Jurassic World 3' In the Works, Sets June 11, 2021 Release Date
615
PANDAS - Official Trailer
84
Does anyone have a suggestion on how I could help a very sick, bedridden Marvel fan see Black Panther from their home?
332
Disney Misused 'Star Wars,' 'Frozen' Copyrights, Says Judge
366
Babe (1995) is a perfect movie in almost every way
142
Lupita Nyong’o To Star In ‘Born A Crime’ Based On Trevor Noah’s Memoir
41507
Paramount Drops 'Transformers 6' from its Slate
708
Why smart sci-fi struggles to find its audience in a 'Star Wars' world
99
Bond 25: Danny Boyle Crafting Original Story with T2 Writer
286
Annihilation and Ex Machina director Alex Garland on using sci-fi to explore self-destruction The filmmaker also discusses Netflix, his new TV series, and the importance of treating the audience with respect
147
Andy Serkis's MOWGLI, is rated PG-13: intense sequences of action violence including bloody images, and some thematic elements.
314
Oscars: Gal Gadot, Mark Hamill, Lin-Manuel Miranda Among Second Group Of Presenters
340
Jason Bateman was set to direct Game Night, until Jonathan Goldstein and John Francis Daley said they'd only rewrite it if they could direct, too
382
Finally sat down and watched Deliverance. My God.
157
Two great movies this weekend!
61
Jurrasic World 3 release date announced for June 11th, 2021.
23
Guillermo Del Toro Denies ‘Shape Of Water’ Was Influenced By 1969 Play
163
Falling Down at 25: why we couldn't resist one man's rampage
4770
Director Duncan Jones Dedicates ‘Mute’ to His Father, David Bowie
142
"Utøya July 22" review - recreation of Norway mass killing is a gut-wrenching ordeal | Film
37
Which movie scene/moment is the most tense, in your opinion?
12
This Star Wars Documentary on Sound in The Last Jedi Is Delightful
28
Movies to watch when you're feeling lost?
44
PUMPKIN (2002) is a forgotten Lynchian dark teen comedy, highly offensive, makes Heathers look like Dawson's Creek
55080
Ten years later, 'Ratatouille' remains a striking allegory of art and class
987
'Paddington Director Paul King To Direct Disney's Live-Action 'Pinocchio'
9
Amazing tracking shot from "Wings" 1927.
89
New Image - ‘Gringo’ | David Oyelowo & Sharlto Copley
39
The ecstatic spiritual sweep of Tarkovsky’s Andrei Rublev
1986
"Honest Trailer - Justice League"
507 pocket-contents Let's be real here. Most filmmakers would be extremely fortunate to have *one* Pan's Labyrinth in them. It's a once-in-a-decade film; a true original. Expecting a director to reach that height over and over is just unrealistic, and not how art happens.
237 MrRoyaleWithCheese I'd love to watch the cut of the Shape of Water that you apparently saw that had "a little of a 90s flavor"
120 Zoombini22 Awards don't work like that. You compare a film to the other films that year, not to a film years ago and how many awards it won. I also prefer Pan's Labyrinth still, but given the competition I wouldn't mind if Shape of Water won more awards.
75 Myst031 That's like saying Jurassic Park is overrated because it's not as good as Jaws. Shape of Water isn't lessened because its not as great as Pan's Labyrinth.
52 hatramroany Pan’s Labyrinth 95% and 8.6/10 on RT, 98 on MC The Shape of Water 92% and 8.4/10 on RT, 87 on MC Pan’s Labyrinth is much higher rated than Shape of Water. Awards are different than straight up and down ratings. Firstly they’re for a single year so you can’t really compare awards success from year to year.
233 Filmhistoriesguy I found Shape Of Water to be very safe. A lot of the film felt predictable, I knew where the film was going before the film itself got there, which is frustrating. Pan’s Labryinth felt, and still feels fresh. There’s an element of rawness to it, particularly with how we, the audience escape with the protagonist away from the harsh realities. I think, for myself. Because I know where the film (SoW) is going, I get frustrated, as there are elements of “movie moments” (the tap dancing, singing section in black and white) with no payoff. I wanted there to be more to these moments, rather than just be, which felt like these random tidbits thrown it. Just my two cents.
63 abippityboop Hey to each his own. Much to my surprise, I actually liked The Shape of Water more than Pan’s Labyrinth just off the performances from the cast which I thought were pitch perfect from all 5 major characters - and that was the last thing I was expecting as a huge fan of Pans Labyrinth who didn’t personally care for GDT’s past few films. I do find it a little funny that literally almost every prestige picture this year is being called ‘overrated’ by large groups of people - have seen it with this, Three Billboards, Get Out, Dunkirk, Blade Runner, and Lady Bird (CMBYN and Phantom Thread have avoided this so far, probably due to being much less seen than the others). I think maybe we’re all way too quick to call everything overrated these days.
10 Linubidix I couldn't connect with Pan's Labyrinth the way everyone else seems to, and while it has its flaws, I much preferred The Shape of Water; it felt like it was made by an even more deft hand than Pan's. The visual style grabbed me in Water way more than it did in Pan's.
10 DoctorMJ I'm not entirely sure why people are using the safety of the plot as an argument against The Shape of Water. It was never presented as something that could throw curve balls or subvert expectations. I think it quite clearly presented itself from the outset as a modern day fairy tale, and it succeeded in being that.
120 benhur217 Pan’s Labyrinth is fantastic, but compared to other movies this year, The Shape of Water is still one of the best.
12 VironicHero Also Awards aren’t necessarily always about singular achievement by a person. Sometimes it’s just about recognizing someone for consistently producing excellent work.
4 Pancake_muncher Pan's Labyrinth is better, but The Shape of Water succeeds solely on it's own terms on what it wants to be. It want's to be beauty and the beast (Fish man) set during the cold war and it surprised me how magical it felt seeing it unravel even though we know where the story is going.
4 Gazorpuhzorpfield TSOW is a VERY good movie. But I agree that it just doesn't have the same magic that Pan's Labyrinth does. I wouldn't call it overrated, as I don't recall anybody saying it's better than PL. But I also wouldn't give it best picture as I still believe Three Billboards is the best film I saw this year.
3 HeyItsMau Since we're on the topic, I find that the Devil's Backbone is...perhaps not underrated, but definitely under-appreciated. Since people don't talk about it much, I went in thinking that it was going to be a middling entry, but I definitely think it's top tier. It's certainly an obvious precursor to Pan's Labyrinth, Shape of Water, and Crimson Peak. I would actually rate it below Pan's but above Shape of Water. Del Toro is so good at telling small stories within a larger historical presence.
513 0 pocket-contents Let's be real here. Most filmmakers would be extremely fortunate to have *one* Pan's Labyrinth in them. It's a once-in-a-decade film; a true original. Expecting a director to reach that height over and over is just unrealistic, and not how art happens.
238 0 MrRoyaleWithCheese I'd love to watch the cut of the Shape of Water that you apparently saw that had "a little of a 90s flavor"
122 0 Zoombini22 Awards don't work like that. You compare a film to the other films that year, not to a film years ago and how many awards it won. I also prefer Pan's Labyrinth still, but given the competition I wouldn't mind if Shape of Water won more awards.
74 0 Myst031 That's like saying Jurassic Park is overrated because it's not as good as Jaws. Shape of Water isn't lessened because its not as great as Pan's Labyrinth.
57 0 hatramroany Pan’s Labyrinth 95% and 8.6/10 on RT, 98 on MC The Shape of Water 92% and 8.4/10 on RT, 87 on MC Pan’s Labyrinth is much higher rated than Shape of Water. Awards are different than straight up and down ratings. Firstly they’re for a single year so you can’t really compare awards success from year to year.
236 0 Filmhistoriesguy I found Shape Of Water to be very safe. A lot of the film felt predictable, I knew where the film was going before the film itself got there, which is frustrating. Pan’s Labryinth felt, and still feels fresh. There’s an element of rawness to it, particularly with how we, the audience escape with the protagonist away from the harsh realities. I think, for myself. Because I know where the film (SoW) is going, I get frustrated, as there are elements of “movie moments” (the tap dancing, singing section in black and white) with no payoff. I wanted there to be more to these moments, rather than just be, which felt like these random tidbits thrown it. Just my two cents.
62 0 abippityboop Hey to each his own. Much to my surprise, I actually liked The Shape of Water more than Pan’s Labyrinth just off the performances from the cast which I thought were pitch perfect from all 5 major characters - and that was the last thing I was expecting as a huge fan of Pans Labyrinth who didn’t personally care for GDT’s past few films. I do find it a little funny that literally almost every prestige picture this year is being called ‘overrated’ by large groups of people - have seen it with this, Three Billboards, Get Out, Dunkirk, Blade Runner, and Lady Bird (CMBYN and Phantom Thread have avoided this so far, probably due to being much less seen than the others). I think maybe we’re all way too quick to call everything overrated these days.
11 0 Linubidix I couldn't connect with Pan's Labyrinth the way everyone else seems to, and while it has its flaws, I much preferred The Shape of Water; it felt like it was made by an even more deft hand than Pan's. The visual style grabbed me in Water way more than it did in Pan's.
9 0 DoctorMJ I'm not entirely sure why people are using the safety of the plot as an argument against The Shape of Water. It was never presented as something that could throw curve balls or subvert expectations. I think it quite clearly presented itself from the outset as a modern day fairy tale, and it succeeded in being that.
121 0 benhur217 Pan’s Labyrinth is fantastic, but compared to other movies this year, The Shape of Water is still one of the best.
10 0 VironicHero Also Awards aren’t necessarily always about singular achievement by a person. Sometimes it’s just about recognizing someone for consistently producing excellent work.
4 0 Pancake_muncher Pan's Labyrinth is better, but The Shape of Water succeeds solely on it's own terms on what it wants to be. It want's to be beauty and the beast (Fish man) set during the cold war and it surprised me how magical it felt seeing it unravel even though we know where the story is going.
5 0 Gazorpuhzorpfield TSOW is a VERY good movie. But I agree that it just doesn't have the same magic that Pan's Labyrinth does. I wouldn't call it overrated, as I don't recall anybody saying it's better than PL. But I also wouldn't give it best picture as I still believe Three Billboards is the best film I saw this year.
4 0 HeyItsMau Since we're on the topic, I find that the Devil's Backbone is...perhaps not underrated, but definitely under-appreciated. Since people don't talk about it much, I went in thinking that it was going to be a middling entry, but I definitely think it's top tier. It's certainly an obvious precursor to Pan's Labyrinth, Shape of Water, and Crimson Peak. I would actually rate it below Pan's but above Shape of Water. Del Toro is so good at telling small stories within a larger historical presence.