Had a post on my twitter feed claiming Islam was the "most feminist" religion. Pointed them to this story. Got blocked immediately.
Oh are we pretending we don't know this behavior exists? Can we just call them dicks instead of culturally different?
> Ms Luxton told NZME the incident made her feel uncomfortable but said she understands she deals with issues of cultural difference as an MP.
Just because it's a cultural difference doesn't mean that it's okay. Sort your shit out Iran.
Typical, you need to respect the traditions and cultures of people from other countries, this is diplomacy 101.
Ok, now am I talking about Iran or NZ?
New Zealander here. This is fucking disrespectful. Our house , our rules. They should look up Kate Sheppard and see how much of a huge insult that was. MP Luxton should not have been treated that way. She did well to hold her temper at that insult.
so why is it that people go to Islamist theocracies and they're expected to bend themselves to the culture of these places, but then when they come to western democracies, we're still supposed to bend to the culture of those places instead of vice versa?
Simple - If I go to your country, I respect your culture, if you come to my country you respect MY culture.
Custom doesn't get to defend discrimination simply by virtue of its cultural force. To not shake hands (or whatever greeting) is acceptable. But to shake hands of only men is not. This would stand for other examples too, such as refusing to shake hands with a black person.
We are well served by peoples anger at this. I would add, however, that speaking rights at a marae is problematic for identical reasons. Frankly, if you're opposed to the Iranian actions here you should also be opposed to providing different speaking rights to women on the marae.
I am, enthusiastically, in favour of the power of reason to erode tradition, custom, and culture where it is found to be unjust. However, this must be done coherently with appropriate application to all cultures, religions, and so on. Sexism(/racism/ect) doesn't get a pass in the marae or in the mosque. I ask those who are, quite rightly, angered at the Iranians here to extend that to all acts of discrimination.
Any female contact is used as a political tool in Iran. The Iranian press lap it up and use it to show a lack of Islamic conviction. They don't really have much choice.